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Greg

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Today is International Men's Day. A time to remember the great achievements of men and to recognise that men are also  victims of domestic, family and sexual violence.

Let's see that this sort of violence is stamped out by permanently isolating offenders from potential victims, not as punishment but for prevention and for protection of innocent potential victims. That  is infinitely more important than any punishment.

Violence against men, women, children, teens or adults is totally unacceptable, but politicians allow it to happen because they either think we like it or they don't care.

Speak up or suffer is the foundation of democracy. Quiet, polite diplomacy is the best way to do that.
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Greg

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Thanks to campaigners. Congratulations to MPs who are moving towards laws that require a positive action to substantiate consent to sex rather than the disgraceful "she did not object" which just makes a fortune in fees for lawyers and is often a lie itself.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, even by the law itself. let's see Police who made children and women strip illegally be promptly prosecuted and gaoled. MPs who allowed this perversion of justice ought to be replaced at future elections. 
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Greg

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Do you think it reasonable that two 141y.o. boys who raped a 14 y.o. girl after getting her drunk, should only receive 3 year gaol sentences? I am not sure about "gaol" but think 3 years is far to short when she lives with the trauma for life. What would you think of rapists paying compensation to their victim assessed at say 25% of their income ( or any other %) for their lifetime (not hers lest they kill her). A student writing in The Sydney Herald today suggested gaol sentences which applied at night but let the (non-violent) prisoner out during the day to work or study. Sounded wise to me. Weekend detention also has a sobering effect.
We just encourage rape with light sentences. Compensation would seem an effective tool. The female's life is impacted in a way that cannot be undone. Her ability to study, work and enjoy life is usually seriously impaired. It seems fair that the rapist (not the taxpayers generally) should compensate her. It could be done via the ATO or Office of State Revenue.

Your thoughts please.
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Greg

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We only raised  a third ($660) of what we wanted ($2000) by crowd funding to persuade politicians to take more preventive action against this violence. Shows how little the community cares. But it does not matter so much. Numbers of voters have donated and others have managed to send persuasive Votergrams to politicians all around Australia.
What we have to be careful of is the government-funded  industry that is growing up around looking after the victims. That is essential, but when people are paid to do that, we need to ensure that the fact that jobs would disappear if the violence did, does not help to perpetuate it.
That was the problem we found with road safety. So many people were making money out of road crashes that they did not want to cut the road toll. Whereas FairGO's "Roadwatch" campaign dropped the death rate by 75%, it has not fallen at all but has in fact risen, since FairGO stopped that campaign due to lack of voter support. Everything is up to voters. What voters want voters get.
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Roger2

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Please refer to children as children and NOT kids!
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Greg

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Our crowd funding has produced $660 in its first week, one third of what we seek. Please dig in deep. It is not reasonable that women, children and some men suffer violence on a regular basis . It is the kids who suffer most and that carries for generations.

Roger, not sure what you mean so give us a bit more detail.
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Roger2

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Thanks but I was hoping to get more than the TOP TWO RESULTS.
This is for a potential new member and needs to be easy to access.
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Greg

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To see the voter-approved solutions for preventing this violence please join (free)/ login then go to the proposals/results page.  https://voters.network/proposed_RESULTS.php
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Greg

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Please stand by to give us a hand to raise $2,000 through crowd funding to cover some of the cost of persuading politicians to adopt our prevention strategies that voters nominated last year. (see proposals/results page).
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Greg

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ICE and other drugs as well as alcohol have been identified as major causes. What should we do about this.
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Greg

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Do you think that the federal budget did anything useful in this area? What is needed is action not so much funding. Policy and laws need to be altered to provide penalties for and compensation by offenders to victims.
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Margaret

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Good to see Parliament passing 5 weeks of DV leave to women seeking refuge and help after fleeing their homes
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Greg

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Rapist gets max 4 years gaol. Woman gets 40 year trauma. Is 4 years an adequate sentence?

Given psychological trauma counselling and damage to career prospects should rapist compensate victim? If so, how much for lifetime suffering$100,000, $1m, $5m, $10m or some other amount?

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Greg

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Did you see that a woman was kidnapped by her boyfriend, kept tied naked to a pole in a bikie den for 2 days before she escaped. What do you think the government should do to prevent that and protect others from the same fate?
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Greg

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Thanks Robyn. This would be worth attending for any voters nearby. We can not only learn by listening but also let others know that we are active on the prevention side. If somebody does make it perhaps they would like to put a report into this topic on the forum. Then we might develop some new strategies. It is going to take a good bit of work to fix this issue and we need a strong team willing to campaign for the long term. I appreciate Robyn letting us know. That is what only networking does for us all.
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